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PostSubject: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:39 pm

Hey, so I've downloaded both softwares, now I just don't know how to use S2 in reaper Sad Helpppppp
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:15 pm

have u placed the .dll or VST in your default VST folder?



if so,

-just create new track
-click "FX"
-search your VST folder until you find S2
-doubleclick S2
or
-right click the left side of the screen where the tracks go and "insert VST"
-search your VST folder until you find S2
-double-click S2


the first way should open on one track and you can access S2 through the FX button.

the second way should open all the different tracks for mixing individually like a mic'd set.

at least that's how AD is.

i prefer way 1 but its just preference.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:26 am

Hmmm, okay I understand, but I don't know where the S2.dll would be.

My superior 2 is installed in c/program filesx86/toontrack
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:39 am

It should be here:
C:\Program Files\Vstplugins

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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:42 am

Yup, okay, I've found it and added it, but when I go to the VST option in FX I can't find S2, and I've looked in all the other places :/



edit: Oops hehe, I forgot to hit re-scan first Smile Found it in VSTi
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:45 am

hmm scratch If you did this while Reaper was open, you need to close reaper and re open it, so it will show up.


Edit: Oh okay you found it Smile, ask if you need anymore help Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:48 am

Okay, now my reaper looks like this:



is there a way to get a piano roll type thing so I can "tab out" my drum tracks? Like in FL studio?

At this point I don't know how to track drums with reaper Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:50 am

Awesome, now just hold down CTRL + click on the empty space in the track and drag the mouse, this creates an empty midi file. Then you just double click it and it will open up that piano kind of thing your talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:52 am

Okay, now I've almost got it, I see the piano roll, but there is no sound comming out of my speakers/headset. And then I hit the piano notes I can see the volume meter go up
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:57 am



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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:59 am

the image appears to be broken Sad
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:03 am

Now click on the "ar" button and the button right beneath it like in the picture, this is to turn on the monitor for that track so you can hear anything that's going into it
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:06 am

I still don't hear the drums Sad

Okay I've found something out, when I talk in my microphone it picks it up, but I don't hear it (My microphone is on my computer headset) same thing for the drum piano roll
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:09 am

I think that might be your problem scratch but if not you have to set up your sound card to work with Reaper.I just noticed on the top right of your Reaper screen in the photo, it says "[Audio Device Closed]". click on it and set up your sound card.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:11 am

Ahh yes, that did it ! I was using the ASIO setting
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:14 am

ok ok, one lasssst question, is there a way to change the sound of certain toms, cymbals, kicks, snares and such? I'm not really digging my kick sound lol
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:17 am

Awesome Twisted Evil let me know If you need any more help.

Oh and btw if you want to change the theme of reaper you can check this page out:

http://www.forum-mixingtips.org/your-tutorials-f22/reaper-themes-t111.htm


EDIT: Yeah you can change it by using programs like Drumagog, KTDrummTrigger, or ApTrigga to change the sounds of a drumset


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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:19 am

well, I just wanted to know if there is a way to change the sound of my set? I don't like the sound of my kick
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:23 am

Yeah you can change it by using programs like Drumagog, KTDrummTrigger, or ApTrigga to change the sounds of a drumset
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:24 am

okay, and what one would you recommend best for a metal kit sound ?


edit: also, is there a way to add a click track while I tab out my drums ?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:55 am

Okay, I've checked out some youtube videos, and I think I like apTrigga the best. Though what I've noticed in every video, is that every piece of the drum is broken down into tracks, as to where I though when you track drums you do it in one whole track.

I'm assuming I need to do it like this:

track1: snare
track2: kick
track3: tom hi
track4: tom mid
track5: tom low
track6: overhead cymbals

etc etc, right ?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:21 am

Larcher wrote:
okay, and what one would you recommend best for a metal kit sound ?


edit: also, is there a way to add a click track while I tab out my drums ?

You said your unhappy about the kick, so a while back I posted a 6 pack download of different drum samples, which btw includes Andy Sneaps kick, and a lot of other great kick samples.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Organized_Samples.part01.rar

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Organized_Samples.part02.rar

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Organized_Samples.part03.rar

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Organized_Samples.part04.rar

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Organized_Samples.part05.rar

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Organized_Samples.part06.rar

Download all 6 parts, once ALL have finished downloading, highlight all 6 parts at the same time, right click, and select extract. Once you do this, It will extract all 6 parts into 1 single neat file.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:38 am

Thank you very much Very Happy <33333333
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:53 am

Larcher wrote:
Okay, I've checked out some youtube videos, and I think I like apTrigga the best. Though what I've noticed in every video, is that every piece of the drum is broken down into tracks, as to where I though when you track drums you do it in one whole track.

I'm assuming I need to do it like this:

track1: snare
track2: kick
track3: tom hi
track4: tom mid
track5: tom low
track6: overhead cymbals

etc etc, right ?

Right! I usually set it up like
track 1=Kick
track 2=snare
track 3=Hi Hat
track 4=Toms
track 5= OverHead
track 6= Room

You can pretty much have whichever set up works best for you but I made this preset here since your new to Reaper Very Happy
Just open this preset and it will automatically load up SD and separate (kick, snare, Hihat etc.) tracks on Reaper's mixer all set up for you.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10891235/Drums/Superior%20Drums%20Bus.RTrackTemplate


To open a track template
just right click the track header and choose Insert track from template and then Open template.


To Save a track template in Reaper

(The pic's were taken from wikiaudio.org)
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:57 am

wow I can't thank you enough, this is definatly going to help!


Except I need to get use to writing in different tracks with SD, I have never done this before lol, is there a easy way around it ?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:01 am

If you use the preset I posted above for you, you don't have to write in separate tracks, you just write in the track that Superior drummer is placed on, I set up that preset for you so that for example whenever the kick is played in SD, it is automatically sent to the kick track, that way you dont have to write in seperate tracks. Just do your whole midi drum track in that first track that Superior Drummer is placed on.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:02 am

Wow that is amazing ! Thanks Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:04 am

No problem bro, Glad to help you out. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:05 am

Okay. one last question.. lol, I also tab in guitar pro with a click track, how do I bring up a metronome/increase the BPM ?


and also, how do would tab triplets and sixtupplets in this?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:09 am

Do you mean like, for example if you did a drum track in guitar pro and you want to export it and put the midi file into reaper. Do you mean like how you can import the tempo from guitar pro into Reaper?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:10 am

no no, I just mean bring up the metronome in reaper and increase or decrease the tempo
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:17 am

And also if you want to change the Tempo preferences (Ex.change click volume or change the click sound etc.) just right click the button with the metronome shown above.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:29 am

before you start writing midi in the piano roll make sure to change the timebase of your project from time to beats. Why?

Let's say that you need 4 measures with 120bpm and another 4 with 140bpm.
If you have written you midi file in the 120bpm measures and then try to drag it/copy it to 140bpm measures then your file will break.


Cause it will follow time rathen than beats. So when creating a new project do the above i told you, like this:







To change the tempo in different measures: Left Click the measure you need. Press Shift + C . Type in the tempo. Done
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:42 am

Nice ! Thanks for the heads up Very Happy


I managed to import my midi drum tracks from guitar pro instead of writing everything (THANK GOD.) and it works amazingly.



Now, all I need to find is a good synth VST that has some voice Oohs and Aahs and some piano Smile



Would you guys know anything about those? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:08 pm

Argh, I have another question! Sorry for all the questions.


So like I mentioned in my previous post, I found out you could import .midi files from guitar pro. Is there a way to import the drum tracks and split them with the kick, snare, toms, overheads and such in the same manner that was shown earlier in this topic Smile ?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:04 pm

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Argh, I have another question! Sorry for all the questions.


So like I mentioned in my previous post, I found out you could import .midi files from guitar pro. Is there a way to import the drum tracks and split them with the kick, snare, toms, overheads and such in the same manner that was shown earlier in this topic Smile ?


you mean this??
http://www.forum-mixingtips.org/mixing-tips-general-f18/seperating-midi-t162.htm
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:42 pm

Hmm, yes kind of, but I've tried following those steps and it doesn't work... there must be something I am missing


I'll try to explain as best as I can.

what I want to do is import drum tracks from guitar pro into reaper, but I want to have seperated tracks (kick, snare, toms) so that I can add drumagog/aptrigga and such


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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:48 pm

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Hmm, yes kind of, but I've tried following those steps and it doesn't work... there must be something I am missing


I'll try to explain as best as I can.

what I want to do is import drum tracks from guitar pro into reaper, but I want to have seperated tracks (kick, snare, toms) so that I can add drumagog/aptrigga and such



thats exactly what the topic i linked you is all about! Did you follow all the steps correctly?
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:57 pm

well, I think I did. when importing the midi file, should there only be the drum tracks? or the whole thing like (guitar 1, guitar 2, guitar harmony, bass, synth, etc) or like I said, should there only be the drum track ?

and how do I add a midi file to a specific track? because when I try to import a midi in reaper it asks me to either split them up in like 6 tracks, on 1 full track of everything together
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:12 am

The midi files should be in the track that you haved added your VSTi not at the sends of it.

For example if you need to use Open SD2 in Track 1, Kick in track 2, snare in Track 3 etc.. the midi should be in Track 1, where your SD2 is active.
Track2, track 3 etc are the sends of track 1
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:17 am

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The midi files should be in the track that you haved added your VSTi not at the sends of it.

For example if you need to use Open SD2 in Track 1, Kick in track 2, snare in Track 3 etc.. the midi should be in Track 1, where your SD2 is active.
Track2, track 3 etc are the sends of track 1

right, but when I import my midi file and play the truck that is called "drums" it does not send the rest (snare, toms, overheads) to the other tracks, it just plays the whole kit in one track
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:25 am

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The midi files should be in the track that you haved added your VSTi not at the sends of it.

For example if you need to use Open SD2 in Track 1, Kick in track 2, snare in Track 3 etc.. the midi should be in Track 1, where your SD2 is active.
Track2, track 3 etc are the sends of track 1

right, but when I import my midi file and play the truck that is called "drums" it does not send the rest (snare, toms, overheads) to the other tracks, it just plays the whole kit in one track

try this and click yes

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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:36 am

Alright I willtry this when I get home ! thx Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:23 pm

Okay I've tried this and it doesn't work Sad. It just opens 16 tracks with nothing in them, here is a screenshot:




(I made everything small so you could see all the tracks)
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:49 pm

I think you missed the last step.
Check out this photo and click where i show you.




Click where it says "out 1" and select multichannel as the shows illustrates above.
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:54 pm

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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:00 pm

ahah! there you go
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PostSubject: Re: How do I use superior 2 in Reaper ?   Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:00 pm

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